By June 1980, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro had returned to Hawaii, with her young daughter Maya. After being back in Hawaii for the required time period, Mrs. Soetoro filed for divorce from her Indonesian husband, Lolo Soetoro, MA, citing the catch-all “irreconcilable differences”.
Lolo Soetoro and Family
What is of key importance in the divorce filings is the reference to the “children” of the “parties”. The “parties”, of course, are Stanley Ann and Lolo Soetoro. According to the court records, the “parties’ had one minor child for whom Stanley Ann sought full custody. The documents also reflect that the “parties” had ONE ADULT CHILD over the age of EIGHTEEN who was “still dependent” on the PARTIES for Education!
This COURT RECORD becomes highly significant in the analysis of the eligibility of Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro to be the President. If Lolo Soetoro did not adopt Barack Obama, there would have been no need for Stanley Ann to have included him or mention him in the divorce documents, particularly in light of the fact that she was going to receive NO support from Lolo Soetoro, not even for the minor child.
Click here for pdf link to Soetoro Divorce files:
http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf
Thoughts??
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January 2, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Mad
WOWZA!
January 2, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Don in Mass
With the ability of Obama to PROVE his qualifiacations,
he keeps all his records secret.
Birth Cert.
School records,
College records.
Why?
January 3, 2009 at 6:37 am
Interested Bystander
Hey All,
I do not see anything of interest in this document.
Now the Obama divorce papers are out there, and again, I see nothing that states where Obama was born.
I will say that I didn’t realize that Lolo, and Stanley were married until 1980. I’m impressed with how long they were married.
Do you see anything that peaks your interest?
January 3, 2009 at 6:48 pm
JAMES
IB: The key thing in the Soetoro divorce documents is the fact that it mentions that Lolo and Stanley Ann have one minor child (Maya) and one adult child (Barack) over 18 but dependent on them for educational expenses. The significance is that IF Lolo Soetoro had not made Obama his son by legal adoption or “acknowledgement” in accordance with Indonesian law, there would have been no need for Stanley Ann’s attorneys to have included Obama in the divorce filing. Since she did, it provides prima facia evidence that he was a legal child of Lolo Soetoro, such evidence that would be admissible in any of the pending cases regarding Obama’s citizenship.
Again, my opinion only, it is this fact that is a part of the problem with the college records. Just a thought: he’s registered at Occidental and Columbia under Barry Soetoro, his father dies in Kenya, and he then begins using Obama again, and he goes to Harvard as Obama. Illinois Bar application is not open to the public, and it would probably show the same thing, because the Bar would require the names he was known by as well as college transcripts.
January 3, 2009 at 6:49 pm
JAMES
In the Obama divorce papers, there is not much of interest, with the exception that there are 3-4 pages reportedly missing. I have not been able to get back to them to confirm that.
January 4, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Interested Bystander
JAMES,
If you look at the bottom right of each page, there are hand written numbers. Pages two through seven (I would imagine page one would be a “cover page”), and then page twelve. There seems to be four pages missing.
One thing that peaks my interest on the Obama divorce papers is the last page says something about a hearing to determine custody and support for the child, but then nothing. So to me, this is still left up in the air.
I know the Soetoro divorce papers state that Stanley gets full custody of Maya, with Lolo having no responsibility for “support, maintenance, or education” of her, but no mention of support for Obama. Is it a given that she would get nothing for Obama?
January 16, 2009 at 11:13 am
V.E.G.
Stanley Ann Dunham has heritage is colorful, and she has Conyers ancestors. So as Laurence Herman “Gus” Versluis.
January 17, 2009 at 4:11 pm
John Jay
The divorce papers that many are missing state that they have 2 children. One a minor and one not a minor attending university. Mr. Soetoro is responsible for the support of Maya and under Hawaii law Lolo Soetoro continues to be responsible for costs of Barry/Obamas’ education. If you check closely it indicates she will deal with child support later. They also state that the father visits every 3 months. Lolo was living in Indonesia, and working for Shell oil, he did not go to Hawaii every 3 months. But.. since she was living in Indonesia every 3 months visitation wouldn’t be a problem. The most important thing here, is that the Obama divorce lists Obama Sr. as the biological and legal father of Barry/Obama (1964). IN the Soetoro divorce (1980) he is listed as Soetoros’ legal child. He would not be listed at all, if in fact he was not the LEGAL father of Soetoro, as he was already the age of majority. The legal age of majority was 18 Obama was 20 when she filed in Jan 1980. No need to mention him at all, if he was not Lolos’ legal son. Lolo would not have been responsible for the costs of the continuing education of a step-son. Note: that they separated in 1974. she lived in Hawaii from a few months of 74 thu 1976. She returned to Indonesia in 1977 thru 1992, with short term residence in US through out those years. How did she do it, I have to assume she did not tell the US or Indonesia of her citizenship within each country. It was not the technological era we live in today. Plus, her anthropology major, working on her dissertation, and the kind of work she did allowed her the freedom to travel freely between countries with no questions asked.
January 17, 2009 at 4:34 pm
John Jay
Correction on previous post Soetoro divorce was filed in JUNE 1980. It was the Obama div. that was filed in Jan. 1964. AND no there is no evidence that Ann returned to Hawaii in 1980 or 81. Keep in mind that there was no hearing and she did not appear before a court or judge in Hawaii. Her atty could have been retained by phone, letter or Grandma Dunham. after that papers could have been mailed for signatures. Look at the Appearance and Waiver, he waived his rights to be present and requested they proceed without him, this is signed by Lolo. After this since she lists no property, living apart since 1974,
allows all the visitation Lolo may want, no alimony, requests custody on the basis that “mother and both children US citizens father Indonesian Citizen.” Also “husband living with another woman and wishes to remarry.” No reconciliation for this marriage. They signed the papers on 8/15/80 they were filed with the court on 8/20/80. Fed Ex was all over the world in 1980. By the way, again this woman lied, she claims Maya was a US citizen. Not True. Born in Indonesia 1970, to two Indonesian citizens, she was 10 years old and a statement to renounce citizenship is necessary at the age of 18 thru 21. After that it is assumed you want to keep your Indo. citizenship. AND Ann didn’t lose her Indo citizenship either, unless she renounced it. Or obtained a passport from another country. But, how would Indo. know if she didn’t tell them? Who was going to question this matter? Look at the type of work she did and the fact that she was working on her dissertation in archeology all contributed to no questions asked.
October 5, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Mystified
Why is it taking so long to get to the bottom of all this?! Even if “Mr. O” signed an Executive Order sealing his records, that should/could only apply to records AFTER he was president. WHO seals his entire lifetime of records???
October 6, 2009 at 6:41 am
JAMES
You are correct that his executive order coveres his Presidential records. The personal records are being kept hidden under state privacy laws, HIPPA laws, educational privacy laws, etc. Ironically, I have seen posted elsewhere that in the Obama divorce papers, a page or two is missing from the files, one page reportedly containing a copy of the Obama child’s birth certificate.
October 7, 2009 at 10:01 am
Zinc_Foil_Hat_Wearer
However interesting these tidbits about the divorce papers are, the divorce papers, like Obama’s birth certificate, are red herrings concerning Obama’s qualification as President. For evidence just look at his web site, “Fight the Smears,” in which a much controverted copy of his birth certificate is posted to supposedly prove that “Barack Obama was born in the State of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen [NOT the constitutionally required ‘natural born citizen’] of the United States of America.” (See: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html?source=SEM-RR-google-content-birth&gclid=CKXWmLuEkJ0CFR9N5QodVjHR7w
Most pertinent is this passage below the birth certificate:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”
Whether the author of that sentence was aware, here is a bold face admission that Barack Obama is unqualified to be President: Obama Sr.s’ Kenyan birth AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED Obama from being President because the U.S. Constitution makes only “natural born citizens” eligible to be the President. A “natural born citizen” is someone who is born on American soil and whose parents were BOTH born on American soil. (Question: How could Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Madison be president when none of these men were “natural born citizens,” as defined? To take care of this “gotcha,” they grandfathered themselves. Thus, Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” The Constitution was “adopted” in 1787, which is somewhat before Obama’s 1961 birth, no?)
Still, how did the act “governed the status of Obama’s Sr.’s children”? Part II, Section 5.—(1) of the British Nationality Act of 1948 states: “Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.” (See http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm)
Clearly, this act made Obama Jr. a British citizen. In any event, Obama was and still is constitutionally unqualified to run for President, let alone hold that office. Article VI of the Constitution, declared the Constituition as “the supreme Law of the Land.” Does anyone believe that Barack Obama is above the law?
March 22, 2010 at 3:53 am
himyaosui2
I don’t see how Americans can allow this to happen! I believe in the laws and I believe in America.
HIM Yao Sui
http://himyaosui.wordpress.com
April 11, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Warrior of Truth
I think every American should seal their info..say well Barry can do it, so can we. Where are the other other children? What happend to the Illigal Aunt of his? see how things just keep getting brushed under the rug? Then ask American Soldiers, who the government “loses” all their records, so they dont have to pay or help them… OMG… some days I want to just scream. Oh, I do. I am the wife of Gulf War soldier who cant get any help.All his buddies he served with have all died. Funny how the cover ups and lies spill over into our personal life.
April 27, 2011 at 7:23 am
perplexed
I just came across this conspiracy.
So it seems Obama’s mother gave birth in Kenya and soon after went to Honolulu where she registered his birth. Obama’s birthplace makes him ineligible to run for US presidency and so all actions taken under his order have been illegal (bit of a problem there). Obama is a child of the CIA and all his records have been laundered or hidden in order to keep his birthplace and allegiances secret. I think we can all sleep soundly in our beds knowing that the CIA are a bunch of inept bunglers.
April 27, 2011 at 7:23 am
perplexed
I just came across this conspiracy.
So it seems Obama’s mother gave birth in Kenya and soon after went to Honolulu where she registered his birth. Obama’s birthplace makes him ineligible to run for US presidency and so all actions taken under his order have been illegal (bit of a problem there). Obama is a child of the CIA and all his records have been laundered or hidden in order to keep his birthplace and allegiances secret. I think we can all sleep soundly in our beds knowing that the CIA are a bunch of inept bunglers.